Help me decipher this weapons mods... - Guild Wars Forums

JimmyDean · Apr 07, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

Hey everyone,

I just picked up a really interesting wand. It has some mods which are a bit confusing to me. Here are its stats:

Attack Speed +10%
Damage -10%
Damage -10%
Energy +5
Damage +25% (vs Charr)

What im wondering is if the Damage -10% is the damage you deal -10%, or the damage you take -10%. I tried testing it on some ettins outside yaks bend; without the wand on they consistently hit me for 30 with power attack. With the wand on, they hit me for 24, so i think it reduces the damage i take. Does anyone know for sure how this works?

Tois · Apr 07, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20

It must damage you give. If it was damage recieved then it would be Armor +5 or something like that.

Very strange for a wand to have so many stats. Never seen that before...

Evilsod · Apr 07, 2006, 11:25 AM // 11:25

Is that a collectors wand from Ascalon?

I remember reading on the W/N solo UW thread that you need a wand with +10% attack speed, i could just never find it. If its true that the recieved damage is reduced too it would be quite useful. Tbh i think its the damage you deal, sorta like the HoD (i think)

+5 energy = Positive bonus
-10% damage = Negative bonus
+10% attack speed = Positive
A 2nd -10% damage = Negative

Just my take anyway, theres always a chance it was just coincidence...

D Fault · Apr 07, 2006, 11:26 AM // 11:26

Its damage you give.
This wand also has versions with 10% miss chance or 20% less criticals in place of the 2nd damage mod.

Haggard · Apr 07, 2006, 11:38 AM // 11:38

Evilsod had it spot on, and I'm guessing its a collector/quest reward

ForeverGoNe · Apr 07, 2006, 11:55 AM // 11:55

It is a collector's wand that can be gotten for 3 charr carvings just outside Nolani.

Former Ruling · Apr 07, 2006, 12:41 PM // 12:41

Its very popular because its unconditional +5e.

But no such luck on the armor thing OP. If it reduced dmg on you it'd be a hard number, not a percentage. Like the -2 damage while in stance sheilds.

And if ti did both 5e and reduced dmg, it'd be nerfed in 2 secs, and the ones left would be millions.

stickyballs · Apr 07, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54

Yeah, it's the Nolani Wand w/ inherent +5e. Replacement for those who can't afford HoD or like wanding and dislike melee (HoD, FFS). When you were reducing damage, it was just your mind playing tricks on you probably, wanting it to do less, that or Ettins were having a bad day...

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Evilsod · Apr 07, 2006, 01:23 PM // 13:23

Surely if this thing did actually reduce recieved damage by 20% the moment all these W/Mo found out about we'd have hoardes of them running round RA wanding people feeling even more godlike

Zui · Apr 07, 2006, 01:31 PM // 13:31

Not just a replacment for HoD, it's also the fastest attacking weapon in the game.

Savio · Apr 07, 2006, 01:56 PM // 13:56

The Nolani Fire Wand is hardly a replacement for the HoD sword or FFS. Those two weapons have the ability to have the weapon upgrade of your choice (Enchantments last 20% longer, Health +30) in addition to an innate modifier (Energy +5, Halves skill recharge of spells (Chance: 10%)). All the Nolani Wand has is an unconditional +5 energy, a rather mediocre mod for a caster, and 10% faster attack speed. Generally it's far better for a caster to get a weapon with fast cast/recharge mods. It is not the fastest attacking weapon in the game, although it is faster than other ranged weapons. For that reason, PvP Warriors use it to build adrenaline from a distance.

Mordakai · Apr 07, 2006, 01:58 PM // 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zui

Not just a replacment for HoD, it's also the fastest attacking weapon in the game.

A wand at +10% is faster than a sword? Whoa.

OK, unless my math is wrong, using this as a guide http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ies-id1275.php

1.75 attack speed for wand, -.175 = 1.575.

Not even close to sword or axe (1.33)

kagy600 · Apr 07, 2006, 01:58 PM // 13:58

yeh, Some warrior PVP player gave me one in a trade.
He sayed that all the high ranked guild's warriors use this to keep adrenaline up when not attacking.

edit: Savio beat me to it

mm00re · Apr 07, 2006, 10:32 PM // 22:32

go test it against the mersaat or jades while you are running.

before equipping the wand you take -9 dmg per second from spectral agony

after equipping you take -7

if all your armor is infused the damage is easy to watch the difference

Evilsod · Apr 07, 2006, 11:56 PM // 23:56

If that truly is the case i believe they screwed somet up while making the mods...

What would be more useful as a runner, +30 health or 20% damage reduction on everything +5 energy?

Btw, the 20% enchanting possibility is only half the reason for it not replacing the HoD sword. If you're holding a wand Aatxe will no longer spam ripostes, somet that really does help when your echoing it onto a few of them.

Evilsod · Apr 08, 2006, 12:08 AM // 00:08

Btw i just tried it. Still did 9 damage to me. Sure you weren't using a stance or somet?

Apr 07, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30	#1
JimmyDean Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006	Help me decipher this weapons mods... Hey everyone, I just picked up a really interesting wand. It has some mods which are a bit confusing to me. Here are its stats: Attack Speed +10% Damage -10% Damage -10% Energy +5 Damage +25% (vs Charr) What im wondering is if the Damage -10% is the damage you deal -10%, or the damage you take -10%. I tried testing it on some ettins outside yaks bend; without the wand on they consistently hit me for 30 with power attack. With the wand on, they hit me for 24, so i think it reduces the damage i take. Does anyone know for sure how this works?

Apr 07, 2006, 11:26 AM // 11:26	#4
D Fault Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Black Rose Gaming [BR]	Its damage you give. This wand also has versions with 10% miss chance or 20% less criticals in place of the 2nd damage mod. Last edited by D Fault; Apr 07, 2006 at 12:21 PM // 12:21..

Apr 07, 2006, 01:56 PM // 13:56	#11
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	The Nolani Fire Wand is hardly a replacement for the HoD sword or FFS. Those two weapons have the ability to have the weapon upgrade of your choice (Enchantments last 20% longer, Health +30) in addition to an innate modifier (Energy +5, Halves skill recharge of spells (Chance: 10%)). All the Nolani Wand has is an unconditional +5 energy, a rather mediocre mod for a caster, and 10% faster attack speed. Generally it's far better for a caster to get a weapon with fast cast/recharge mods. It is not the fastest attacking weapon in the game, although it is faster than other ranged weapons. For that reason, PvP Warriors use it to build adrenaline from a distance. __________________ People are stupid.

Apr 07, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20	#2
Tois Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Guild: Legacy of Echovald Profession: E/Me	It must damage you give. If it was damage recieved then it would be Armor +5 or something like that. Very strange for a wand to have so many stats. Never seen that before...

Apr 07, 2006, 11:25 AM // 11:25	#3
Evilsod Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]	Is that a collectors wand from Ascalon? I remember reading on the W/N solo UW thread that you need a wand with +10% attack speed, i could just never find it. If its true that the recieved damage is reduced too it would be quite useful. Tbh i think its the damage you deal, sorta like the HoD (i think) +5 energy = Positive bonus -10% damage = Negative bonus +10% attack speed = Positive A 2nd -10% damage = Negative Just my take anyway, theres always a chance it was just coincidence...

Apr 07, 2006, 11:38 AM // 11:38	#5
Haggard Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Urmston, Manchester, UK Guild: Greener Pastures [DVDF] Profession: W/Rt	Evilsod had it spot on, and I'm guessing its a collector/quest reward

Apr 07, 2006, 11:55 AM // 11:55	#6
ForeverGoNe Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Freelancing	It is a collector's wand that can be gotten for 3 charr carvings just outside Nolani.

Apr 07, 2006, 12:41 PM // 12:41	#7
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Its very popular because its unconditional +5e. But no such luck on the armor thing OP. If it reduced dmg on you it'd be a hard number, not a percentage. Like the -2 damage while in stance sheilds. And if ti did both 5e and reduced dmg, it'd be nerfed in 2 secs, and the ones left would be millions.

Apr 07, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54	#8
stickyballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: American Servers Guild: Sin Squad [SIN] Profession: W/	Yeah, it's the Nolani Wand w/ inherent +5e. Replacement for those who can't afford HoD or like wanding and dislike melee (HoD, FFS). When you were reducing damage, it was just your mind playing tricks on you probably, wanting it to do less, that or Ettins were having a bad day... .

Apr 07, 2006, 01:23 PM // 13:23	#9
Evilsod Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]	Surely if this thing did actually reduce recieved damage by 20% the moment all these W/Mo found out about we'd have hoardes of them running round RA wanding people feeling even more godlike

Apr 07, 2006, 01:31 PM // 13:31	#10
Zui Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO] Profession: Mo/	Not just a replacment for HoD, it's also the fastest attacking weapon in the game.

Apr 07, 2006, 01:58 PM // 13:58	#13
kagy600 Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: [KOR] Kights of the Reich	yeh, Some warrior PVP player gave me one in a trade. He sayed that all the high ranked guild's warriors use this to keep adrenaline up when not attacking. edit: Savio beat me to it

Apr 07, 2006, 10:32 PM // 22:32	#14
mm00re Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: In a van down by the river :) Guild: After Dark Club [REAL] Profession: W/Mo	go test it against the mersaat or jades while you are running. before equipping the wand you take -9 dmg per second from spectral agony after equipping you take -7 if all your armor is infused the damage is easy to watch the difference

Apr 07, 2006, 11:56 PM // 23:56	#15
Evilsod Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]	If that truly is the case i believe they screwed somet up while making the mods... What would be more useful as a runner, +30 health or 20% damage reduction on everything +5 energy? Btw, the 20% enchanting possibility is only half the reason for it not replacing the HoD sword. If you're holding a wand Aatxe will no longer spam ripostes, somet that really does help when your echoing it onto a few of them.

Apr 08, 2006, 12:08 AM // 00:08	#16
Evilsod Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]	Btw i just tried it. Still did 9 damage to me. Sure you weren't using a stance or somet?